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HEAVY 38 WCF aka 38-40 Winchester

SKU: 38 WCF-180 HC/20

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aka 38-40 Winchester AMMO
180 gr. FN Hard Cast @ 1,000 fps - Revolver or 1,400 fps - Rifle
20 Round Box


ITEM 38 WCF-180 HC

After years of customer requests, (this is being written 11-21) Buffalo Bore is releasing their first heavy 38 W.C.F. ammo. “Heavy” simply means full power—this is not cheap/weak CAS competition ammo.  This load is quite powerful, yet does not exceed the old SAAMI max. average of 14,000 CUP. Our plan was to make a load capable of defensive use against humans that was very effective so that folks with one of these revolvers or rifles could enlist that firearm into effective service to preserve human life. This load, like the 40 S&W cartridge, utilizes a .40 caliber bullet and sends it at over 1,000 fps. from a 5.5-inch revolver, so ballistically speaking, it is the equivalent of the 40 S&W. There are many other advantages to this new load over any existing 38 W.C.F. loads we know of.

We are making the bullet out of properly lubed 15 BHN hard cast material, not the normal 5 BHN pure lead, so the bullet will not lead your barrel, nor will it deform on living mammalian material at these velocities, so straight-line penetration is ensured. With rifle/carbine velocities, you could use this load for harvesting deer out to 100 yards.

We are using a flash retarded powder to keep the muzzle flash down in low light for defensive use.

As you can see, Buffalo Bore is using real-world firearms to produce our published velocities, not laboratory test barrels that can give false high velocities.


1,020 FPS - Custom made USFA, (By Brian Pearce) 5.5-inch barrel
1,421 FPS - 1920’s circa Winchester 1892, 24-inch barrel

My only test rifle in 38 W.C.F. has a 24-inch barrel, but in my testing of other similar cartridges, a 16-to-20-inch barrel would likely produce faster velocities than the 24-inches, depending on barrel internals. With these small capacity cartridges and smokeless propellants, generally, full velocity is reached in 16 to 20 inches and longer barrels actually slow the bullet down slightly due to “barrel drag”.

While this load stays within SAAMI pressure specs, I would advise NOT using it in original black powder steel firearms. Some of these older guns are in very poor condition and should not be fired with any ammo. I understand the satisfaction of firing great, great, great grandfathers’ gun, but the wisdom in doing so means risking a valued heirloom and possibly your safety or the safety of bystanders. Use this load only in guns made with modern steel for smokeless powder and if it is a “relic”, have it checked for suitability before firing it with any ammo. Be careful, please.

Good shooting and God bless.

Tim Sundles


Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20 - Exterior Ballistics Charts for several Muzzle Velocities


Muzzle Velocity @ 1500 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20


Muzzle Velocity @ 1400 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20



Muzzle Velocity @ 1300 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20



Muzzle Velocity @ 1200 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20


Muzzle Velocity @ 1100 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20



Muzzle Velocity @ 1000 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20


Muzzle Velocity @ 900 fps for Item 38 WCF-180 HC/20


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Friends and Customers, 08-18-20


All shooters are being inconvenienced with what is happening to our society and the rush it is causing on ammo supplies. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. If our web site allows you to order any item, that means it is in stock—WE DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FOR ITEMS WE DO NOT HAVE! So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. If they aren’t, the shopping cart will not take your order.

We have hundreds of customers to get orders to on a daily basis. In order for us to accomplish this for our customers, we ask the following.

  1. Be sure of what you are ordering. You are going to get what you ordered.

  2. Do not contact us and ask to change an order you’ve already placed. When we manually change orders it requires a lot of time that we do not have during this rush and it keeps us from serving all of our customers. If you’d like to change an order, we can no longer do that till things slow down, so simply place another order for more product, but PLEASE, NO MORE CHANGES after the fact!

  3. We NEVER have and never will take ammo exchanges or returns and then turn around and re-sale that ammo to unsuspecting customers as factory new ammo—this is not safe nor is it fair to customers who are buying what they think is new and safe ammo. No ammo is tamper proof! So please stop asking to exchange or get a refund for ammo you ordered, but have changed your mind about.

  4. Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or “when will my ammo ship”? Our system automatically emails out tracking numbers on the orders we ship each day, however, because these emails are coming from a corporation shopping cart, many of these emails may go to your spam folder……..please look there. If it is not in your spam folder, that means we have not yet shipped. At current order rates, we are shipping within 5-7 business days of the time an internet order is placed. Please sit tight. Your ammo will arrive at the same time if you track it or not and will certainly arrive later if we are swamped answering questions instead of getting orders shipped. When 30-50 people per day send emails asking for tracking information and we have to pull that information up, then type it out and email it, it takes a huge portion of our work day that we should be using to ship those orders to customers in need. Please leave us alone so we can serve all of you. (ship to you) It’s a bit selfish, during times of shortages, when so many folks need to protect their families, to slow us down because you ordered carelessly or want to change your order. Right now, we expect you to do your part to help us all get the ammo we need in our troubled country.

These measures are hopefully temporary and will not be needed for long as we enjoy the interaction with our customers, so please, for the time being, be mindful of all those others who are also trying to get ammo during what I think is a societal meltdown/emergency. Hopefully, we can serve you all. We want you and your families to be armed and safe and we wish you the best during these trying times. My biggest concern is that things will worsen yet more, for a while. Until things straighten out in our government and society, we will have to streamline our customer service in order to serve all customers. Thank you for your understanding.

Good shooting and God bless,

Tim Sundles

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