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200 gr. Hard Cast @ 2,200 fps/ME 2,149 ft-lbs
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ITEMS 29A and 29B


These two new 32 WS loads are the direct result of customer requests. I’m normally hesitant to make any new loads that are not a big improvement over existing ammo, regardless of who makes it and that goal was not hard to accomplish with our new 32 WS ammo. We are making two 32 WS loads--a 170 gr. JFN load (item 29A) and interestingly, we are able to push that bullet at well over 2300 fps in a 24-inch barrel and 2300 fps in a 22-inch barrel—this is as fast, or faster than even the best 150 gr. 30-30 loads can be pushed. This is not only a big energy jump over the 30-30 but with the 32’s bigger bullet diameter, this is a definite advantage in lethality on big game. I’ve killed enough big game to know that if all else is equal, bullet diameter seriously affects how lethal the cartridge is on big game and this is where the 32 WS shines over the 30-30. This would be a great place to read a short essay on FT. LBS. of energy versus TKO effectiveness.  

Item 29B features a 200 gr. hard cast, gas checked bullet…….but please read on.

I keep hearing folks say that the 32 WS is simply a necked-up 30-30 casing. That is really not the case. The 30-30 is simply a necked-down 38-55 casing as the 38-55 is of much greater antiquity than the 30-30. So the 32 WS is basically a necked down (down from .379 inch) 38-55 casing as is the 30-30, but the 30-30 is necked down to .308 inch and the 32 WS is necked down to .321 inch. All three of these cartridges fit in the slim/trim Winchester 1894 action, which if you’ve ever hunted with one of these Winchesters, you’ll understand how handy, trim, and lightweight they are. The same should be said for the Marlin and Savage lever-action rifles chambered in 32 Winchester Special.

I would use item 29A on beasts of up to 500 lbs. at distances under 200 yards.

As per usual, we use real-world firearms to achieve our published velocities. See below;


➤  2,371 fps -- Winchester 1894, circa 1980’s Commemorative - 24-inch barrel
➤  2,301 fps -- Winchester 1894, circa 1906 - 22-inch barrel
➤  2,189 fps -- Winchester 1894, circa 1980’s Commemorative - 16-inch barrel

All three of my rifles shoot item 29A very accurately.

I would use item 29B on beasts of well over 1,000 lbs. if I had the need to do so, but I normally step up to a .338 Winchester Mag. (or bigger) for that type of task. Still, if a 32 WS rifle was what I had, I’d use this load for that purpose without hesitation.

At 2,150 fps, item 29B pushes its 200 gr. bullet as fast or faster than typical 170 gr. 30-30 loads……what’s not to like here with 30 grs. more bullet, of bigger diameter, arriving on target faster than a 170 gr. 30-30 bullet would? See my recorded velocities below;


➤  2,175 fps -- Winchester 1894 circa 1980’s Commemorative - 24-inch barrel
➤  2,130 fps -- Winchester 1894 circa 1906 - 22-inch barrel
➤  2,044 fps -- Winchester 1894 circa 1980’s Commemorative - 16-inch barrel

Both these loads are kept within the SAAMI max. average pressure of 38,500 CUP, same as the 30-30.

Item 29B is a different story regarding accuracy; with my two 1980’s vintage model 1894s shooting that heavy bullet quite well with their 1:14 twist, but my older 1906 Winchester has the old/original 1:16 rate of twist and will not shoot that heavy bullet as accurately, but it is still accurate enough for close-range defensive work against a bear or moose. I believe Winchester started using the faster rate of twist in the 1950s, but I am not sure when Marlin or Savage went to the faster 1:14 or 1:12 twists. Any of the faster (faster than 1:16) twist rate barrels should stabilize the 200 gr. bullet very well and give good accuracy out to the range/distance limits of the cartridge.

This is serious ammo for the old 32WS and if you are fortunate enough to own one of these great old rifles, these loads will/can do more effective hunting of big game than the original ammo, by far.

Take care and have fun,

Tim Sundles


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Friends and Customers, 08-18-20


All shooters are being inconvenienced with what is happening to our society and the rush it is causing on ammo supplies. We have LOTS of ammo in stock and are making more at a huge volume on a daily basis. If our web site allows you to order any item, that means it is in stock—WE DO NOT TAKE ORDERS FOR ITEMS WE DO NOT HAVE! So, please do not email and ask if items are in stock. If they aren’t, the shopping cart will not take your order.

We have hundreds of customers to get orders to on a daily basis. In order for us to accomplish this for our customers, we ask the following.

  1. Be sure of what you are ordering. You are going to get what you ordered.

  2. Do not contact us and ask to change an order you’ve already placed. When we manually change orders it requires a lot of time that we do not have during this rush and it keeps us from serving all of our customers. If you’d like to change an order, we can no longer do that till things slow down, so simply place another order for more product, but PLEASE, NO MORE CHANGES after the fact!

  3. We NEVER have and never will take ammo exchanges or returns and then turn around and re-sale that ammo to unsuspecting customers as factory new ammo—this is not safe nor is it fair to customers who are buying what they think is new and safe ammo. No ammo is tamper proof! So please stop asking to exchange or get a refund for ammo you ordered, but have changed your mind about.

  4. Please do not contact us and ask for tracking numbers or “when will my ammo ship”? Our system automatically emails out tracking numbers on the orders we ship each day, however, because these emails are coming from a corporation shopping cart, many of these emails may go to your spam folder……..please look there. If it is not in your spam folder, that means we have not yet shipped. At current order rates, we are shipping within 5-7 business days of the time an internet order is placed. Please sit tight. Your ammo will arrive at the same time if you track it or not and will certainly arrive later if we are swamped answering questions instead of getting orders shipped. When 30-50 people per day send emails asking for tracking information and we have to pull that information up, then type it out and email it, it takes a huge portion of our work day that we should be using to ship those orders to customers in need. Please leave us alone so we can serve all of you. (ship to you) It’s a bit selfish, during times of shortages, when so many folks need to protect their families, to slow us down because you ordered carelessly or want to change your order. Right now, we expect you to do your part to help us all get the ammo we need in our troubled country.

These measures are hopefully temporary and will not be needed for long as we enjoy the interaction with our customers, so please, for the time being, be mindful of all those others who are also trying to get ammo during what I think is a societal meltdown/emergency. Hopefully, we can serve you all. We want you and your families to be armed and safe and we wish you the best during these trying times. My biggest concern is that things will worsen yet more, for a while. Until things straighten out in our government and society, we will have to streamline our customer service in order to serve all customers. Thank you for your understanding.

Good shooting and God bless,

Tim Sundles

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